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Breakdown

» Defining figure in Detroit techno.
» Founding member of label Underground Resistenace.
» Quit UR in early 90s for solo career. Moved to NYC and joined German techno label Tresor.
» Started Axis Records in 1991.
» Scored a new soundtrack to the 1926 film about robot revolt, Metropolis, in 2000.
 
»Jeff Mills Q&A
April 15 2003

 

One of the defining figures of Detroit techno and also one of the world's most skilled DJ's, Jeff Mills is notorious for his reticence to do interviews. We manage to get him to sit down while he was in Kuala Lumpur for a one on one...

Your new album is called 'Medium'. Your website labels it as a "psychological analysis of the creative grey area'. What do you think you've discovered in your analysis?

Jeff Mills: Err…in the research I discovered that it was much broader than what I'd expected it to be. Once I began thinking of all that falls within the grey area it really expanded much more than just creative actually and what the album mainly deals with is mostly all the things which are difficult to describe through words or through sound or even through music…things that are mostly in transition, things that are metamorphosising into something. So basically, its not A and not B but something in between... like A.1, A.2, A.3 and so forth and so on.

 

And then in the research I began to correlate the subject with just everything around us life, work and in the way the world is structured and how people evolve from one thing to another. And then I began to look at people as a subject of a grey area and it became even more interesting.

 

Then I began creating the music and began to title it, I focused on four different chapters and focused on the precautionary position about grey areas. So I titled them as things that maybe one would think about in terms of caution. Maybe the more negative side than the positive side to make people think about the subject, to get more attention.

 

So I think out of all the releases that I've had, I think it's the most mature, most complex thing to talk about. Because it covers so many different things which are in transition, it basically sums up everything around us.


So you decided to put it into music?

JM: Well the music is the format but we've done numerous interviews with many other artist, people, interior designers, architects, other techno musicians about what their perspective about 'grey area' means. So I got a lot of research done on this matter.

 

So there was a lot of research done before the actual creation itself.

JM: Yeah there's actually much more research than music (laughs)…but to actually understand what you're doing, that's what you have to do.

 

War, Music, The Bells

 

How would you describe your music on the new album?

JM: Well the music was designed to be something which is difficult to describe. It kind of reminds you of techno in a certain way, in a 'housey' sort of way, and in another way, a more soundtrack kind of way. So it was designed to fit into the grey area, to give the listener the feeling that they were listening to something that was difficult to describe.

 

The artwork of the jacket is the same, there was no artist… there's no image. It's just gray and umm… everything was designed to fall in line, in a certain way disorienting the listener so that he or she doesn't know what to expect when they listen to it.

 

With the war coming, have you thought about making a producing a track or even an album to express your feelings about it?
JM: Yes, but it would not be something that I would want to sell though. It would be more like something personal. I just couldn't sell it. I don't think I would feel right making an album about the Iraqi war and then selling it for $5.99. So I thought about it and maybe (in) the last few months thought about maybe focusing on some of the very serious topics in addition to making music on the dance floor.

 

War is a very terrible thing; it basically starts off from something which is deeper. So I thought about maybe making albums about things which were much deeper, like religion, race and the misunderstandings of people and things like that. Because this seems to be much more focused than war, so I expect to go even deeper about the truth of it.


What's the story behind the track 'The Bells'?

JM: Well it was a track that I made back in '93 or '92… I think. It's not much. The sound that's in the record that reminds people of bells, in the keyboard, it was the bell itself. So there's where it came from…it's just a simple track I did in 20 minutes or so.

 

What drives you to make music everyday? What motivates you?

JM: I don't know... it's kind of an obsession to make something out of nothing. It has nothing to do with the number one record or even money; I would do it for free.

It's just something that I needed to do to express how I felt or to communicate some ideas.

 

The business part comes much later… but I really just love to play. Not even record, that also comes much later… just to piece something together and just sit back and play is the most exciting.

 

Axis Brand Pencils

 

Why are there pencils on sale on the Axis Records website?

JM: Well...in the company itself, this is what I did many, many years ago when I first started Axis, I created the character of the company to be almost like a mirror of myself. So the colours that I like, the topics that I like… in the way that I understand it the most and can explain it to people.

 

Drafting and using pencils is what I do in my office a lot, so I thought it would be a great idea to make a pencil set cause I use them create the designs for a lot of things. And it's just something that is practical and reasonable.

 

We wanted to create things that were not so trendy. Something that you could buy now and 10 years later still be useful. Our shop doesn't have that theme of 'trendy stuff'.


There's also a section for charitable organizations. Why do you feel so strongly about these organisations?

JM: Well I mean, people are constantly in need. And I think all of us should feel strongly about this because we're all connected. As much as I travel, as much as I've seen… I think any person who travels as much would eventually come to a conclusion about humans and how they live and what they want at the end of the day.

 

It's all basically the same no matter what country or race. So that tells us that we're all really connected and that we have to take care of one another to a certain degree. So I thought that seeing how many people log on to the site that it would be a good way to bring something a little bit more serious to their attention in addition to the music that we make.

 

You were a resident at 'Limelight' in New York. What do you think is the current state of nightlife in New York?

JM: Well I mean New York… it changes, its always been constantly changing. Clubs open, clubs close, and out of that it produces clubs with great reputations such as the Zanzibar and the Red Parrot from a long time ago and Paradise Garage… so I think it just falls in the tradition of it.

 

I mean Twilo closed and now there's a club called the Arc which is the old venue of Vinyl where they used to do 'Body and Soul'. So it's a slightly different atmosphere but it has an atmosphere of its own.

 

Drugs and the Future of Techno

 

What are your views on drugs and its relation to the clubbing scene? Do you think that they go hand in hand?

JM: No, I think its one of those subjects that is a result of something much deeper. I always thought that people take drugs cause there was something missing. And that something missing probably comes from the way they were brought up or what influenced them once they got to a certain age.

 

And that's where to start, not to look at someone taking ecstasy or anything else. I always thought it was a sign of something much deeper. It's just a vehicle, a result of something.

 

I know you don't drink and take drugs…

JM: Yes I do. Hahaha...no, I'm just kidding.


You've been referred to as the personification of techno's essence. Why do you think that is so?

JM: Frankly, I don't know why. I don't listen to techno so much at home. Mainly because it feels and sounds much better when I go and make it. And when I DJ it sounds really fresh and new. But I don't live that way outside.


Could it be because you were one of the pioneers of techno in the early days?

JM: Yeah, but one out of many that were in that generation. I think there are more appropriate people; Juan Atkins would be one, Carl Craig…

 

What is the future of techno? Do you think its going to go out of fashion?

JM: Well I think it has and it's come back in fashion and then gone out and come back in again. So I think that part of it will always be there. There will always be this attractiveness, allure of techno.

 

It's a very strong format of music, very powerful... you don't have lyrics, but just the structure of it can be overwhelming. Or it can be just too much for the average person, which makes it very attractive. It's too complex, aggressive, powerful. I think that is what makes people attracted to it. I would have to assume that, since it has attracted so many people over the last 15 years.

 

Well, people generally grow up with techno. They don't come into techno and then kind of leave to go into another thing. They generally come in and stay for an amount of key years and then move aside because they become too old and they can't go out and they can't go to the parties but they still love the music.

 

So what happens is that as the younger generation is coming into the music, it is expanding the whole possible listening audience. So now we are having signs of types of techno which are easier to listen to. It's becoming a section of its own.

 

You don't like doing interviews, why?

JM: If the questions are not interesting or if the questions are silly…and sometimes they are… then no. Because I can see what the media can do from both sides for someone as an artist and someone as a reader. And you only have so many chances to say things in your career. Magazines are only going to interview you a few times in your career so I look at interviews where the questions are simple almost as a missed opportunity to say something that people might find interesting.

 

 

-matt

- thanks to Jeff Mills and GCI for making this interview possible!!

 

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