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Having just won the Australian Music Award for 'Best International
DJ', what do you think of music awards in general?
KK: They can be over hyped and over exaggerated, but I think
it's good to have awards because it shows a kind of appreciation
for music that people are playing... and of course when you
win an award yourself, it's a good feeling.
You feel like all the hard work and effort you've put into
the sets and style of music that you play has been widely
appreciated, so yea I think awards are good but then I would
say that having just won an award!
But it's an important part of music because it makes people
aware of who's popular and who's not and it just shows general
interest in a certain sort of music.
Do awards dilute the music in some way, though?
KK: With something like breakbeat or something like that,
I think people see it and it encourages them to look at a
certain style of music and how popular it is.
If awards are given for certain styles of music then... when
it starts getting too detailed for a certain type of music
and the list is endless with all the awards then it can become
a little bit diluted, yeah.
You beat traditional favourites like Sasha and Paul van
Dyk for that award. Is that a sign that breakbeat is getting
bigger?
KK: Definitely. I think the diversity of breaks is what
people find popular in Australia, particularly, because the
range is like hip hop, breakbeat, drum n bass, and u can mix
some house in there as well, if you please... so it offers
a wide variety of styles, and I think that's what people find
exciting and different, that's why more and more people are
enjoying the breakbeat scene, really.
Why are breaks so popular in Australia?
KK: Well the climate's good for (being) outdoors (and having)
big festivals and stuff.. there're a lot of young people that
go over to Australia, and they get all types of people from
everywhere in the world so it adds to that mixture of excitement.
People just like to have a good party there you know. They
don't take a lot of drugs out there.... they don't drink and
I think that encourages them to kind of enjoy the music more
rather than taking drugs and getting worried about something
else other than the music.
Which artists have been influential in breakbeat over the
years?
The Freestylers have done a lot of good breakbeat, the Plump
DJs, a lot of the Fingerlickin' records, because their stuff
is really easy to digest and play.
Myself, I think I've done a lot of quite easily accessible
music, Freq Nasty... just kind of like funky sort of breaks
really, (with) big hip hop influences. There's a lot of one-off
tunes that are quite good as well.
I suppose the best era for breaks was kind of like the '98,
'99 sort of era. That's really when it was at it's big peak...
and then the big beat thing came in and kind of over-commercialised
it, but it's finding its feet again, you know, the nu skool
breaks, and the funky breaks stuff is coming back up, so...
I suppose '98 to 2000 were good years for breaks.
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What about the older stuff like 70's funk and soul?
KK: That range of music is so huge, you've got the '72, '73
era which was a really good time for funk, and a lot of the
breaks that were used in those records are what people sample
now, and they've just been fattened up.
(artists) like James Brown, Kool and the Gang, Earth, Wind
and Fire... and a lot of the instrumentation. Nowadays you
can buy a lot of compilations with a lot of really good tunes
on them, like Parliament, The Ultimate Breaks n Beats Collection.
They're a good way of letting people know how good funk and
disco was in the '70s.
How do you get hold of these rare records?
KK: A lot of it is going 'round to second-hand record shops,
record fairs in England and a lot of jazz shops in Sweden
and Germany... now, they sell a lot of good funk.
Sweden and Germany?
KK: Yea, Sweden was huge in the '70s for jazz, (along with)
Switzerland and Prague. (There were) a lot of big festivals
and jazz musicians, so a lot of good jazz and funk music was
coming out from those areas in the early '70s, really.
So if you're not in Sweden or Germany, you're pretty much
fucked?
KK: Yea! (laughs)
And America obviously, is the best place to buy funk and
hip hop, you're just spoilt for choice. There are lots of
second-hand record shops there and they're as big as some
of the shopping malls.
Did funk originate in America?
KK: Yea, definitely. Very late '60s was when it all began...
and a lot of the best musicians in the world all come from
America, really, for funk. James Brown and all that sort of
people... the list is endless, really.
Do you think classic sounds like funk will ever die out?
KK: No, there're still a lot of clubs that still only play
funk music. It's very popular in England still and it's got
a big following. There's a lot of modern jazz now that's kind
of like, a new version of what funk is. There're a lot of
bands playing cover versions of '70s tracks you know, so it's
still very exciting.
Have clubbers today lost sight of early music
like funk and soul, which are the roots of today's dance music?
KK: Yeah, they have. Because nowadays dance music in clubs,
for instance now what you're hearing, has got like a fat beat
and it's very driving, people will appreciate that more than
they would a good '70s funk tune with like, out of time drums,
vocals and saxophones that are too loud.
Nowadays it's very well-produced, very cultured into a kind
of, big sort of beat, that people can dance to more. It's
more easy and accessible to listen to modern sort of breakbeat
than it is '70s breakbeat (for clubbers today).
Would you recommend the average clubber today to go back and dig up some good 70's funk tunes?
KK: Yea definitely, yea... that's where [producers today]
get their influences from musically, because you can listen
to how the structure of the music is, and u can gain good
knowledge from that.
Who do u rate right now?
KK: Fingerlickin' and my own label, Against The Grain I would
say. The Plump DJs, Stanton Warriors, Scratch Perverts, who're
really good DJs, Cash Money... he's still doing the rounds
and doing good, I've DJed with him, Freq Nasty, Skool of Thought...
all really good DJs for me.
How's your collaboration with Freddie Fresh coming along?
KK: We were going to start a label up together but it never
really worked, because Freddie lived in America, so basically,
it's me and a guy called Skool of Thought now who run Against
The Grain and Supercharged.
Freddie was never really a part of it, it was just an idea
we had that never really materialised, because he lived so
far away in America, we never really got together.
But you know, we still speak on the phone and keep in contact,
but he does his thing and I do my thing, really.
What do you think of new formats like CDand MP3 and their
effect on vinyl culture?
KK: I think vinyl culture is slowing down a little bit
in terms of DJs, but the punters are still buying lots of
records. If you get CDJ-1000s, the
scratch CD players, DJs can be more creative, and, if they've
got brand new tracks, they play them off CD.
So what's missing from new formats that vinyl has?
KK: A lot of people are playing CDs that are unmastered, so
obviously you don't get the full impact of the tune until
it's mastered. So vinyl still has an important part to play
because vinyl is properly mastered, so people who won't go
to get a CD mastered, might just get it on record.
And it also just sounds better on vinyl!
You travel a lot, how have the current political climate
and terrorist threats affected you?
KK: It's always a worry because you never quite know what's
around the corner, but I think we're still a long way away
from a major war.
I believe that there's too much love and too much enjoyment
in the world for people to go to a serious war, and I think
the terrorist thing is still kept under good control and hopefully,
nothing like what happened in America will ever happen again.
You've not felt personally threatened then?
KK: No, touch wood, not so far, and hopefully, err... never,
really!
How did you pick up your scratching skills?
KK: When I first started out, the mixers weren't really good,
but nowadays you can buy really really good mixers for scratching...
so it was difficult for me and I learned the old way, whereas
all the new jocks now are like, really skilful, like crabbing
and flaring and all sorts of techniques.
But the mixers that i had, you know, you couldn't do all
that. Some of them didn't even have cross-faders, so I learned
the hard way. It was kind of hard work but I really enjoyed
trying to be creative and doing things differently to what
other DJs do.
How did they scratch back in the day?
KK: Because the cross-faders weren't as quick, it was more
difficult to scratch... so I just had to keep practicing harder
and harder. I watched DMC videos, went to clubs to see Cash
Money, Jazzy Jeff, Grandmaster Flash, all the early DJs...
and learn the techniques and skills of these people.
So are you a babe-magnet because of your quick hands?
KK: No, not really, hopefully more for my good looks but I
don't know about that! I've got a girlfriend so I'm quite
happy when it comes to that department.
I'm sure many people would be disappointed to hear that...
KK: Well I don't know about that.. but it'd be nice to think
that there are people out there who are attracted, the women
of course, rather than the men!
But yea, I'm a one-woman man, I think. I've got a beautiful
Canadian girlfriend, who I'm just about to meet in Australia,
so I'm very excited about that.
So she's Canadian and you're meeting her in Australia?
KK: Yeah... she's coming out. I see her once a month because
I usually tour Canada and America once a month. I met her
when I was DJing in Toronto about a year ago.
What's Brighton like?
KK: Fantastic, one of the best club scenes in the world! Unbelievable,
really good. Lots of good DJs, lots of different mixtures
of music, hip hop, drum n bass, house, techno, breakbeat,
I mean, it's all there, and it's a small city.
Do you and Adam Freeland compete to be king of the scene
there, then?
KK: Oh no, he's got a long way to go to be the king! There's only one
king in Brighton and that's me!
No, I'm only joking...
-joon, Dec 02 @ Bilique,
Bangsar
-thanks to Martin, the
Beatmonkeyz and Loops!
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